The Holy Spirit Cannot Speak or Act on His Own

Posted May 17, 2019

 

Transcribed and edited from:
May 17, 2019 10:00 AM Livestream Broadcast


Kathie D and I have been discussing what I have encountered, and she did too, years ago, in the Charismatic movement and that is: people asking the Holy Ghost to speak, asking the Holy Ghost take over their tongue, take over their lips and speak. You cannot in any way ask the Holy Ghost to do anything—it is unscriptural. Am I right KD? [Kathie: Amen.]


So this came up recently again and when I heard about it I said, “You can’t ask the Holy Spirit to do anything”. The Holy Spirit cannot speak of himself, so you’re silly to ask him to do so. Kathie asked if I was going to deal with this and I said, “Are you ready to read it?”. She is going to read what we’ve been discussing.


Kathie: This is what the word says about the Holy Ghost.


Doyle: Well that’s the only place to look.


Kathie: Right. I’m going to begin in John 14.


John 14:


15 If ye love me, keep my commandments

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16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; (The Holy Ghost is going to be with us forever.)


17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


John 16:


7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.


8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:


9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;


10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;


11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.


12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.


13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


If you go back, he says, the Holy Spirit shall “glorify me”, the Holy Spirit does not glorify himself.
Doyle: Ok Kathie, lets back up. There are about four or five points in those verses that I want to point out.


13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:


Notice what that says, the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth, not speak to you, but guide you to all truth. Do you see that? He’ll guide you, and how’s he going to do that? He’s going to guide you in the word. I’ve been doing this since 1970 and I learned quick to believe the bible, believe it. When he says guide, he means guide, he doesn’t say teach.


Kathie: But he does say teach, in Chapter 14.


Doyle: Just a minute, he’s guiding us into all truth. We are dealing with that now, not teaching. Alright? Now what’s the next thing he says?


Kathie: This is Jesus talking and he says,


“…He shall not speak of himself.”


Doyle: Whoa, right there, do you get that? He will not speak of himself, so when you ask the Holy Ghost a question, he can’t answer it. Is that right? [Kathie: Amen.] [Anthony: Yes.] Are you sure?


Kathie: It says, “he shall not speak of himself,” So he doesn’t talk.


Doyle: That’s right. So, if you ask him a question, he cannot answer it. [Kathie: Amen.] Alright, what’s next?


“…but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:”


Doyle: Now, do you get that? This is plain, if you use simple understanding. He cannot speak except what he hears, is that right?


Kathie: That’s what is written, “Whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak.


Doyle: Is that right? [Kathie: Amen.] The Holy Ghost doesn’t speak anything. Now there are three things there about the Holy Spirit:


*Guide you into all truth.
*Cannot speak of himself.
*But what he hears, he speaks.


Is that right? [Kathie: Amen] Who does he hear from?


Kathie: I believe he answers that in the next verse:


“he shall glorify me.”


Doyle: Well what’s the next thing after what he hears?


“he will shew you things to come.”


Doyle: Ok, He will show you things to come. Why? Because he knows, and how does he know? The Father or Jesus has told him. Let me tell you, there is a Father, there is a Son and there is a Holy Ghost, but the Father and Son are the ones that answer all questions and they speak all things. Is that right? [Kathie: Amen] Holy Ghost doesn’t speak anything.


Kathie: Amen. It says, “he shall not speak of himself.”


Doyle: But what’s next? What he hears he speaks, not what he thinks up. These are simple words, simple instructions, if you don’t think you’re wise. If you think you’re wise, you’re going to get lost. Now what’s next?


Kathie: We just talked about, and he will show you things to come and then verse 14,
“he shall glorify me.”


Doyle: Who?


Kathie: Jesus, he’s the one speaking.


Doyle: Now let me tell you, an erroneous assumption. I marvel at people’s ignorance that are smart and highly educated. I was taught when you have a word, you judge it: “Does it glorify God?”
What are you talking about? It might be Jesus it glorifies. Let’s move on.


14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


The Holy Spirit hears, we already been there, receives what he hears, right? [Kathie: Amen] and “he shall receive of mine (the Lord)”—is that right? [Kathie: right] Now what’s next?


"and shall shew it unto you."


Kathie: And he goes on and explains that a little further,


15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.


So that includes the things of Father also.


Doyle: What the Father has, belongs to Jesus. What’s next?


Kathie: That’s all in John, but if we go to Romans 8, there are two things that Paul talks about, about the Holy Ghost:


Romans 8:


14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.


Doyle: Hold it. Who makes intercession for us?


Kathie: It says the Spirit does.


Doyle: It’s right there. I’ve met these people who say you have to have somebody else to intercede for you. That says, “the Spirit itself intercedes,” right?


“So, are you telling me that you can pray in the Spirit and the Spirit in you makes intercession for you?” That’s what I just told you, did you get it?


Kathie: And as you read, that Spirit makes intercession according to the will of God, not according to his will.


27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


Doyle: That’s right. You see this is easy, if you don’t think you’re intelligent.


You say, “Doyle you’re hard on me.” I am tough on intellectuals that think they know a lot. They like to interpret. What’s next?


1 Corinthians 2:


7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:


8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.


9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.


10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.


11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.


Kathie: That goes right along with John 14 and 16.


Doyle: The Spirit searcheth…the deep things, right?


Kathie: Right and it goes on in verse 11:


For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.


Doyle: Did you hear that? Who wants to tell me what that said?


Kathie: Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God, like Jesus said, he takes of Jesus’ and the Father’s and he reveals them unto us.


Doyle: Did you know intellectuals hate that? Why? Because they don’t know the things of God, right? I’ve got pains in my belly that I’m not sure where they’re coming from, but I think right here.


Kathie: I’ll go on in verse 12 and 13:


12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.


Doyle: Whoa, we receive the Spirit of God that we might know the things of God, given to us by the Spirit, not your head.


13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.


1 Corinthians 12:


1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.


2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.


3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.


5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.


6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.


7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.


8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;


9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;


10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:


11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.


Doyle: People say, “You’ve got one gift.” That says, several, divided by the Spirit of God, right? [Kathie: Amen] Several. So, if you have been deceived that you have one gift, somebody else got another one, you have been deceived, and you haven’t paid any attention to the word. The word says that the Spirit of God divides several as he will, right?


Kathie: Right. And in verse 6, it says


“there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.”


All gifts in all people.


Doyle: Right, all gifts in all people and its God that works them.


Kathie: Amen, and he works all gifts in all people.


Doyle: Everyone. All right let’s go:


12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.


13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Doyle: Any questions or comments?


Terre Brown: You were just saying earlier how intellectuals hate it that man can’t know God, according to what Kathie read in 1 Corinthians 2, the natural man receiveth not the Spirit of God. Romans 8 says the carnal mind is enmity against God.


Doyle: You’re right on. I want to tell you, an intellectual that will humble them self, can receive the things of God, but most of them can’t.


Kathie: When I first came to Water of Life, as you said it, “If it’s not in the word, we don’t do it.”


Doyle: That’s the way I live.


Kathie: And that Jesus is our example. There was a well-known preacher who said, “We don’t do it, quite like the way they did it in the book of Acts, and your first question was, “Why not?”


Doyle: That was terrible, I was in the room when that man said that and I thought, “What are you saying?” Do you realize how many simple-hearted people you just deceived? That we don’t do it quite like they did it in the book of Acts. Well, I said, “How come we don’t?”


Kathie: When you listen to Jesus’ prayers, and Paul’s prayers and Peter’s prayers, the apostles’ prayers, none of them ever prayed to the Holy Ghost. And Jesus said, “This is how you pray, “Ask the Father in my name.”


Doyle: Would you repeat that?


Kathie: Jesus is our example; Paul said he is our example; Peter is our example. If you read and you study, Jesus never prayed to the Holy Ghost. Jesus himself said to the disciples, “You ask the Father, you pray to the Father yourself, in my name and he will give it you.” Paul never prayed to the Holy Ghost, nor did Peter. They didn’t pray to the Holy Ghost, they prayed to the Father in Jesus name.

 
Doyle: Would you read Matthew 6, where Jesus said, “Here’s how you pray”:


Kathie:


9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father (Not, “Oh Holy ghost.) which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.


10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.


11 Give us this day our daily bread.


12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.


13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.


Doyle: Who did he say to pray to? Our Father—that’s scary isn’t it? You ask, “Can you speak Jesus and achieve things?”

 
That’s not praying, that’s speaking his name, the authority in it. Yes, you can speak, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus… You’re speaking the authority of the name. Pray to the Father in Jesus name.


Terre: Jesus says in John 16:23,

 
“And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name...”


You just said, how Jesus did not pray to the Holy Spirit, John 14, Jesus said, I will ask the Father to send the Spirit. If Jesus could just pray to the Spirit he wouldn’t have to ask the Father, and he shows you right there.


Kathie: I have a testimony that fits right here, and I think it will bless a bunch of women. I was praying the other day and I said, “Father, how far can you take a woman. You know it’s written about the apostles, and all the prophets and what they did, but no where in the New Testament do you tell me, how far can you take a woman?” and I waited a minute and the Lord spoke right back to me. He spoke a beautiful thing that blessed me, He said, “Kathie (yes he knows my name), all the gifts are yours.”


You know what that means? A woman can prophesy, she can cast out devils, she can heal the sick, she can give tongues, she can interpret tongues, all the gifts are ours. That really blessed me and settled my spirit.


Doyle: Any other questions or comments?


Terre Brown: In songs, in worship, I used to hear, “Father I adore you, Jesus I adore you, Spirit I adore you,” worshipping the Holy Spirit. If Jesus said, the Spirit will glorify me, (Jesus), then neither should we glorify the Spirit by worshipping the Spirit.

 
Doyle: What is that song?


Terre: That was a song that maybe came up in the seventies, maybe before the Charismatics, but came out of the Charismatic praise. We sang it when we first came here in 1985, but you stopped it. You stopped us singing that song and said, “We don’t worship the Holy Spirit.” That is an example of how you obey the word of God and if something comes up you deal with it here. We follow this word. Other songs I’ve heard more recently where they will worship the Holy Spirit. In John it says the Spirit of God will glorify me, glorify Jesus. We don’t glorify, we don’t worship the Holy Spirit. In John 4, “The Father seeketh true worshippers to worship him, in Spirit and in truth, worship the Father in Spirit and in truth, you don’t worship the Spirit.


Doyle: I’m sitting here, one pain after another, like pulsation in my heart and I’m obviously overcoming something, as it says in Psalm 55, “sore pained.” Folks, I forgive them all, everybody, of everything, but persecutors brought me “down to the ground as a man long time dead,” (Psalm 143:3). Those pains keep bubbling up, obviously I’m overcoming persecution. They persecuted my soul, that’s my will intellect and emotion. I trust God bringing me thus far but its been tough, fighting to believe and not be deceived.


I believe I’ve got to tell this, you know I gave $1,551,000.00 away and there is one place I gave money that I’m not sure I should have. Out of $1.5 million, I’m not sure I should have given that money and it was to an organization. That may be where my pain is coming from. I’ll get it taken care of. Did you know when you give money, it better be how God directs. I know people who left Water of Life and one of them absolutely said, “We will take the money and give it where we believe it’s right, out of their money. We won’t give it except we take it and we give it where we think its right. I can tell you right now you are not giving it where God wants it to go and one day, you’ll end up reaping what you sow.

 
Terre: And that is right in the word in Acts 4; they didn’t make distribution where they believed it was right, they laid it at the apostles’ feet and the apostles made the distribution,


Doyle: That’s true. And let me say now, you lay it at the apostles’ feet and Water of Life and I’m the apostle that makes the decision where it goes. Alright? You have to prove yourself before God gives you opportunity to make decisions. Did you know once I told Patti, (she’s in heaven) "Write a hundred dollar check and send it to so and so," and I was almost sure in my spirit that I was wrong. Guess what, she forgot to sign it. It came back and I said, “I was wrong. Send it here,” and it went to the right place. So, I’ve got some experience, not a lot, thank God.

 

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